Talk:New Netherland
Abolition of Slavery
Bort: But generally alot of the opposition of slavery came from the working and middle classes (as well as the new businessowner elites would wanted to take the plantation owning elite down a peg) basically the policy of patroonship: receive land but u need to fill it with settlers and develop it, was mostly a Dutch Republic thing right, now that NNL becomes independent in 1795 and basically the patroons having a lot of $$$ do you think they'd switch over to slave labor instead to develop more land? i personally dont want that for NNL since itd be lore-breaking but this needs to be ironed out, why they dont resort to slavery and banning them completely pretty early on in their independence nnl would be pretty nativist post independence up until at least 1903 revolution El BortoToday at 12:19 AM I think (large scale) slavery would be unlikely to take hold in the north for a variety of reasons tbh including that northern agriculture was less labor intensive than the notoriously brutal cotton and sugar plantations in the south, plus slaves were expensive with slave holders being expected to clothe and feed them Supreme Duchess TimToday at 12:20 AM I think they could switch but keep in mind you have Kommando's so maybe the patroons would not do it due the fear of a straight up uprising wannabeeToday at 12:22 AM the kommando is the local militia that is composed of farmers and local amerikaners right? Supreme Duchess TimToday at 12:22 AM YEah yeah wannabeeToday at 12:22 AM they surely wouldnt object to the abolition of slavery Supreme Duchess TimToday at 12:22 AM no but i mean it could deter the patroons from even bringing over slaves wannabeeToday at 12:22 AM ah ok sorry, i misunderstood your point yeah makes sense mmmh ok looking good looking good ok lets try to set arbitrary dates for abolition: NNL: right after the establishment of the patroon constitution (1796) ?
Government
wannabeeToday at 2:23 AM So, the arcs of NNL Government history:
- Post-Charter Colonial Government 1656-1795: This is from the time our guy Van der Donck secures the municipal charter. Basically pre-independence. Still colony of the Dutch Republic.
- Patroon Constitution Government - 1796-1901: This is when the patroons basically had independence. Kind of a "for patroons by patroons" kind of constitution. This period would be characterized by a weak central government in its early years (with the local patroons having more power), but the central government start to consolidate power in the late 1800s and actually limit the rights of patroons
- Post-Revolution Government 1903 onwards, post-revolution
