Talk:Silent War

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The "Silent War" is RTL's analogue to the Cold War, between Britain and Russia.

Lore dump

  • Conflict in Japan: Autocratic rule

Post-GW Africa lore

• Alternate names for ‘sub-Saharan Africa’: Ophiria (Biblical name), Austroafrica (southern Africa)

Portuguese Guinea

• Afro-Brazilians start settling in the Oyo Empire from the late 1700s (for exampleélix_de_Sousa)

• During the Yoruba Civil Wars (1774-1880), the Portuguese gradually gain control over the Yoruba states/influence them using Catholicism and Afro-Brazilians

• Genoa plays part in subjugating the Lord of Lagos in the mid-1800s, keeps Lagos until the 1970s (like a Genoese Hong Kong) when its reintegrated into the Yoruba state

• In the 1950s, Portuguese Guinea gains independence as either A) a constitutional monarchy under the Oyo dynasty or B) an aristocratic republic controlled by the Yoruba aristocracy or C) a more democratic republic

Other regions

• Dutch Gold Coast receives independence as the Ashanti Kingdom

• Spanish Edo/Benin gains independence as absolutist Kingdom of Benin/Edo (like an African Brunei)

• The Songhay state: rump Kingdom of Dendi never ends, continues into modern day

• Swedish Guinea falls into civil war after independence: splits into 3 states - Borgu, Dahomey, and the ethnically Gurma part unites with Liptako + Gurma

• Niger gains independence as a united nation, like OTL Nigeria

• Tuat + Chamba join Algeria

• Tawareck + Agadez unite into a Tuareg state

• Gambia, Sierra Leone, and Salvatia gain independence

• Mandeland invades and conquers Masina = becomes the United States of Manden

• (the Darfur, Wadai, Gimbala region is messed up so we need to fix that - Darfur should be Wadai, Wadai should be Bagirmi, and Gimbala should be Darfur)

• Bornu remains independent, maybe annexes Todaga as a self-governing area?

Dutch Gold Coast/Ashanti

  1. March 8, 2022

    Okay here's a new idea or two: in the aftermath of the Augustine wars, the British gain the Danish gold coast forts (similar to how they took basically all Danish colonies ittl) but are driven out by the Ashanti empire in the 1820's or 1830's. In late 1830's the Dutch support the Ashanti in a war against the Fante which brings the empires closer together and the Dutch are given more coastal land and forts in former Fante territory. In the aftermath of the Canton war, the loss of the Kaap and the Spanish-Dutch war the Dutch plan to start investing and developing their gold coast colony leading to further investment and a increasingly strong economic and political relationship with the Ashanti kingdom. In the 1870's the Dutch start building a successful planation economy in their coastal territory. and In 1875 in the aftermath of the third-anglo Virginian war the British are embolden to expand their holdings in west Africa and start to encroach on Ashanti land which then leads to the Ashanti seeking protection from the Dutch which turns the Ashanti Empire into a protectorate in 1876. In 1890 the Ashanti empire is torn apart internally over the secession crisis and the Dutch take a side in the conflict but in the aftermath of conflict annexes the broken Ashanti empire in 1893 which some autonomy. Then after the treaty of Amsterdam, in 1905 a rebellion of former Ashanti loyalists and anti-dutch akan tribes wage a war against the expanding Dutch and pro-dutch Akan tribes. Leading to in the aftermath the expansion of the planation economy northward and then the expansion of Zoekerism to the Akan in the colony. So the society of the colony would be interesting too, the largest city and capital of the colony would be Elmina with Kumasi & Accra being the next largest. It would be mostly an agricultural planation based nation besides for those cities with the vast majority of the population being Akan agricultural workers who are slowly being converted to Zoekerism and Christianity. In the middle of society would be mixed raced Akan-Dutch citizens called either 'Tapoeijers' or 'Vrijburghers' who acted as minor admins and overseers to the small dutch planation-owning elites. Additionally I think you'd start to see local Akan plantations and plantation owners after the Ashanti empire is annexed. Where Dutch - loyal Akan leaders start adopting Dutch way Also instead of antagonizing and abolishing the Ashanti, why wouldn’t the Dutch ‘Batavinize’ and take control of the Ashanti heirs? Like IOTL, they sent Ashanti princes to the Netherlands to gain a Christian and Western education. ITTL they could just use them as figureheads of legitimacy. They would preside over the plantations and work with the mestizo class. And any Akan dissenter could just be sent to the East Indies